Dear Jorn,
I decided to look the text through immediately.
First of all, the pieces of text about explanations for what is expected
to happen, are not the jargon standard physicist would produce (there
are a lot of ill-defined notions like aether, etc...). I am convinced
that the field of free energy involves genuine physical effects which are
anomalous
but the level of theoretization is...., well, I allow you to guess the
word I was almost spelling out!
On basis of these text fragments I cannot conclude much about what might
happen. It seems that the some experimenters have however observed
that potential is indeed generated, which itself is a non-Maxwellian
phenomenon.
I tried to figure out what might occur in the proposed construct.
I emphasize that this is just lighthearted guesswork of a person
who just and just can replace a burned lamp with a new one.
It is not possible to deduce from theory anything reliable in
this kind of complex situation: just looking what happens is the
only workable approach.
1. Assumtion: the system is analogous to a rotating magnet
I start from the assumption that the situation is analogous to that
encountered with a rotating magnet. Of course, it is not quite so:
the magnetic field, if present at all(!), should be generated by the
rotation.
This is quite possible since various ions of opposite charges in water
participating the rotation give rise to currents which do not necessarily
sum up to zero.
TGD predicts that rotating systems generate also classical Z0 magnetic
field (Z0 field is weak force counterpart of photon field and standard
model
does not allow classical Z0 fields, only quantal which effectively
exist only below length scales of about 10^-17 meters, one hundreth of
ptotons size). Z0 magnetic fields are counterparts of the torsion
fields and explain quite many phenomena explained in terms of torsion
fields.
One possibility that I can imagine is that gradual spontaneus Z0
magnetization implying also the generation of magnetization
and magnetic field as a side product occurs.
2. The electrostatic potential is NOT generated by ordinary charges
The strong electrostatic potential in radial direction is claimed to be
observed. This would result in the same manner as it results in case of a
rotating
magnet. The formula for it in case of rotating magnet is
omega*B*r2/2=e V(r)
and results from wrong application of Faraday law but gives correct result.
The formula gives electrostatic potential, which you tell should be about
104 Volts. From this one can deduce magnetic field (a very rough estimate
for it).
At radius of one .1 meters 104 Volts would give
B= about 2 Tesla,
roughly 4*104 times the magnetic field of Earth for omega=5*104 rpm.
This is quite strong a magnetic field. One could of course measure the
magnetic field to check whether it exist there (assuming that one has the
egg but it cannot be there before hen!).
What is important is that the electrostatic potential in TGD model is NOT
due to ordinary charges like electrons, protons and ions,
but due the generation of vacuum charge density.
[By changing the direction of rotation the sign of potential changes which
means that in this case ions of opposite charge should give rise to
the potential and this seems implausible to me (electrons should be replaced
by protons say)].
This would mean that one CANNOT draw charge from system. But I see
no need for this. The potential
however causes current to run: current carries would be electrons in
conducting wire and this current could do useful work.
3. Could power be produced?
In case of Russian experiment the magnetic configuration is rigid and they
claim that they have found that for some critical angular velocity the
system
starts to accelerate and produces power. I think this is the expectation
also
now. Perpetuum mobile is certainly NOT in question.
The formulation of the model for the phenomenon represented in Faraday Lab
journal
was based on generation of what I call negative energy spacetime sheets.
The system could be said to radiate negative energy and thus to gain itself
positive
energy. This is indeed possible in TGD universe since energy can be also
negative and is negative for spacetime sheets having negative time
orientation.
An alternative manner to state same thing is to say that
system forms quantum bound state with some system in external world.
Bound states could be formed also within the system.
This liberates binding energy and system
starts to accelerate. Actually the system should fall gradually to a more
and more
bound state, to the minimum of potential well, one might say.
This bound state formation would correspond to self-organization
and formation of a more complex system perhaps possessing some aspects of
living matter.
Z0 magnetization, which I already mentioned, could liberate energy
accelerating the system: negative energy spacetime sheet(s) would be a
spacetime correlate for formation of the bound state so that a rather exotic
looking phenomenon would
actually relate to a deeper description of a rather familiar phenomenon!
BUT!: after the spontaneous magnetization would have occurred nothing more
would happen and energy production would cease.
4. Are antigravity effects involved, what about implosion?
Another effect claimed by Russians is the reduction of the gravitational
mass
of the rotating system. For this I constructed also a model. What would
would happen
that the bonds connecting the spacetimesheet of rotating magnet to the
spacetime sheet where Earth's gravitational field split and the
gravitational
flux must go to some other spacetime sheets. Thus the magnet responds to
Earth's
magnetic field with a reduced gravitational mass.
If the splitting of bonds occurs now it
might effectively cut the rotating vortex from surrounding word
to its own spacetime sheet and perhaps lead to an implosive effect.
I am not sure whether ordinary hydrodynamics could explain the implosive
effect: p+rho*v2/2=constant along flow lines around vortex is simple rule
of thum and would imply that pressure gets lower when one approaches vortex:
same effect as the pulling force you feel when say buss drives by very
near.
5. Some points which I did not understand
What is the role of colloidal content and trace minerals making water
piezoelectric? Would suggest that some kind of self-organization giving
rise to primitive life forms should occur? Why just golden band for picking
up of charge?
6. Comments on comments.
From:
http://www.frank.germano.com/water_power.htm
A vortex has centripetal (as well as centrifugal) force that can compress
its fluid to such a degree as to result in a 350,000-fold increase in
pressure or a powerful implosive suction force.
*The claim about pressure increase seems unrealistic to me but I have no
real 'touch' on numbers here. I do not actually understand what is said
here.
A vortex can be considered as a wave of ever-diminishing amplitude. And as
a type of black hole, where energy is drawn in and by extreme compression
is
polarized electrically, so that particles sucked in split into
electron/positron pairs, and where, as according to Hawking's Theoretical
Physics 3 there is an emission - even from black holes in space - of both
positive and neutral charges. Correspondingly, there is at the mouth of a
vortex a relative centrifugal force which is positively charged with respect
to its central (negative) throat.
*Same here.
From: Implosion 202.ppt, Dan Winter
*I know that Golden Mean is important and not too well-understood aspect
of biological systems but I cannot follow Dan Winter's arguments.
Film Exerpt Above
Credit to: Alexander Lauterwasser - also
see: The SHAPE of
Water's Flow-er.. 1.
Dan Winter's article and links on Implosion Electric Power "FREE"
Energy Announced- Earth May be ENDANGERED!! (because it is not 'free')
2. and his review
of the background physics - with technical articles- PREDICTIONS
FOR A NEW PHYSICS OF GRAVITY & AWARENESS BASED ON RECURSION
3. Recommend
the Implosion Info - Image Library- CLICK
HERE FOR PRELIMINARY IMAGE REVIEW FOR THIS CURRICULUM
This article is about using Implosion Energy in a
responsible way - beginning with a teaching example: Consider
- Energy SOURCE from PiezoElectric Implosion from that Vortex (Jorn
Mol's Project / and graphic and outline below, you may communicate directly
with him regarding his construction of this design - jorn.mols@planet.nl)
The Egg Supplier: See